Which is the fastest Pokemon with regards to lore?












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Arcanine are said to travel 6200 miles in a day and night, which comes out to about 250mph. Dragonite are said to break the sound barrier (~750mph), and to be able to fly around the world in .. was it 15 hours? (~1500mph) They're also stated to be the fastest flying Pokemon.



Is there any more information on what speeds Pokemon reach? Either as travel speeds (would be interested in both flying, land, water, and underground), or muscle movement speed (e.g. if it could react to block an attack in a millisecond, and we know roughly how large the Pokemon is so we could guess a distance needed to block, that could give us a speed).



I couldn't find any information on Speed Deoxys, which would be a natural candidate for many records.










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    Well... there's this move called Teleport..

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Arcanine are said to travel 6200 miles in a day and night, which comes out to about 250mph. Dragonite are said to break the sound barrier (~750mph), and to be able to fly around the world in .. was it 15 hours? (~1500mph) They're also stated to be the fastest flying Pokemon.



Is there any more information on what speeds Pokemon reach? Either as travel speeds (would be interested in both flying, land, water, and underground), or muscle movement speed (e.g. if it could react to block an attack in a millisecond, and we know roughly how large the Pokemon is so we could guess a distance needed to block, that could give us a speed).



I couldn't find any information on Speed Deoxys, which would be a natural candidate for many records.










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    Well... there's this move called Teleport..

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 1 '16 at 11:51













  • Wow, pokemon are fast!

    – wogsland
    Feb 12 '17 at 4:45














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Arcanine are said to travel 6200 miles in a day and night, which comes out to about 250mph. Dragonite are said to break the sound barrier (~750mph), and to be able to fly around the world in .. was it 15 hours? (~1500mph) They're also stated to be the fastest flying Pokemon.



Is there any more information on what speeds Pokemon reach? Either as travel speeds (would be interested in both flying, land, water, and underground), or muscle movement speed (e.g. if it could react to block an attack in a millisecond, and we know roughly how large the Pokemon is so we could guess a distance needed to block, that could give us a speed).



I couldn't find any information on Speed Deoxys, which would be a natural candidate for many records.










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Arcanine are said to travel 6200 miles in a day and night, which comes out to about 250mph. Dragonite are said to break the sound barrier (~750mph), and to be able to fly around the world in .. was it 15 hours? (~1500mph) They're also stated to be the fastest flying Pokemon.



Is there any more information on what speeds Pokemon reach? Either as travel speeds (would be interested in both flying, land, water, and underground), or muscle movement speed (e.g. if it could react to block an attack in a millisecond, and we know roughly how large the Pokemon is so we could guess a distance needed to block, that could give us a speed).



I couldn't find any information on Speed Deoxys, which would be a natural candidate for many records.







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  • 9





    Well... there's this move called Teleport..

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 1 '16 at 11:51













  • Wow, pokemon are fast!

    – wogsland
    Feb 12 '17 at 4:45














  • 9





    Well... there's this move called Teleport..

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 1 '16 at 11:51













  • Wow, pokemon are fast!

    – wogsland
    Feb 12 '17 at 4:45








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Well... there's this move called Teleport..

– Wrigglenite
Sep 1 '16 at 11:51







Well... there's this move called Teleport..

– Wrigglenite
Sep 1 '16 at 11:51















Wow, pokemon are fast!

– wogsland
Feb 12 '17 at 4:45





Wow, pokemon are fast!

– wogsland
Feb 12 '17 at 4:45










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There's only one consistent way to judge this, thanks to how infrequent good Pokedex data is.



In-game Stats



Arcanine has a base speed stat of 95 (Gen 6). Dragonite has a base speed stat of 80. And travels around the world in 16 hours. Compared to most Pokemon, this is rather slow. Using this method, we can see that the fastest pokemon stat-wise are:




  1. Deoxys (Speed) - 180

  2. Ninjask - 160

  3. Mega Alakazam - 150

  4. Mega Aerodactyl - 150

  5. Deoxys (Normal) - 150


So it seems Deoxys (Speed) is much faster than Arcanine. Considering most pokemon do not have detailed notes on their speed, and poke-lore is ridiculously inconsistent it seems going off in-game stats is the best way to go.



We could use the speed values to make an estimte of their actual speeds though, using the data provided about Arcanine and Dragoite



250 / 95 = 2.63mph per base speed



40,075 (Distance around the world) / 16 hours = 1556.25mph.
/ 80 = 19.45mph per base speed



Our first calculation would give Speed Deoxys (2.63 * 180) = 473.4mph, while our second would give them (19.45 * 180) 3501mph. That would cover the distance of New York to LA in one hour.



In Lore



The Pokemon lore is inconsistent, contradictory, and quite useless, but I shall append some answer to this.




  • Genesect using Extreme-Speed - Quite fast - but no numbers

  • Latios - "Faster than a jet" ((1,555 mph, 2,503 km/h))

  • Pidgeot - Mach 2 speed 2,447 km/h


  • Golduck - Explicitly stated to be the fastest swimmer

  • Ninjask - Moves so fast they are almost Invisible.

    Using information from here, they must move at around 20,000km/h minimum, and from a distance of 10 miles (which is the distance to view the object for it to seem invisible). This is almost impossible from a close distance (If it abides by normal laws of physics, it'd be almost impossible to move so fast as to be almost invisible at a close distance. But if the Dex is to be believed, this is without a doubt the fastest pokemon.)






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    The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

    – Philipp
    Sep 1 '16 at 7:59






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    @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

    – Samthere
    Sep 1 '16 at 9:42






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    @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

    – Samthere
    Sep 1 '16 at 9:57






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    Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 1 '16 at 13:42






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    Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

    – Alex Meiburg
    Sep 1 '16 at 17:15





















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According to Gary in the original TV series it would be Diglett.





"Diglett can pull their heads into the ground at the speed of light!"





Pretty sure that will top any other stat!!



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  • Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

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  • @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

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  • I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

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  • @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

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  • @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

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The question is unanswerable.



Pokémon lore, especially move and Pokédex description, has always been very exaggerated since it's supposed to appeal to children. There has never been any proof that the grandest claims found in the Pokédex are true. For example:




Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit.




You'd burst into flames if you so much as looked at one.




Alakazam's brain continually grows, infinitely multiplying brain cells.




Alakazam's head has yet to explode.




[Machamp's] four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds.




125 punches per arm per second.




Manectric is constantly discharging electricity from its mane. The sparks sometimes ignite forest fires. When it enters a battle, this Pokémon creates thunderclouds.




Manectric does not, in fact, create thunderclouds or discharge constantly.




[Cubone] always wears the skull of its dead mother, so no one has any idea what its hidden face looks like.




I've bred Cubone before, and my Marowak still has a skull, and is definitely alive.




When [Victini] shares the infinite energy it creates, that being's entire body will be overflowing with power.




We've got a being that can produce infinite energy. Not a huge amount, not enough to obliterate the universe, it's literally infinite. I don't need to tell you how ridiculous that is. If any Pokémon is the fastest, it's Victini.



And finally, Quick Attack's description:




The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible.




I guess anything that learns Quick Attack is the fastest Pokémon in existence, if you want to trust the lore, but I prefer this move.






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Garchomp is said to fly as fast as a fighter jet and an average fighter jest can go 4000 km/h while Dragonite can only go 2505 km/h. Zeraora can go as fast as lightning but a lightning bolt's speed is less than 2000 km/h.





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    There's only one consistent way to judge this, thanks to how infrequent good Pokedex data is.



    In-game Stats



    Arcanine has a base speed stat of 95 (Gen 6). Dragonite has a base speed stat of 80. And travels around the world in 16 hours. Compared to most Pokemon, this is rather slow. Using this method, we can see that the fastest pokemon stat-wise are:




    1. Deoxys (Speed) - 180

    2. Ninjask - 160

    3. Mega Alakazam - 150

    4. Mega Aerodactyl - 150

    5. Deoxys (Normal) - 150


    So it seems Deoxys (Speed) is much faster than Arcanine. Considering most pokemon do not have detailed notes on their speed, and poke-lore is ridiculously inconsistent it seems going off in-game stats is the best way to go.



    We could use the speed values to make an estimte of their actual speeds though, using the data provided about Arcanine and Dragoite



    250 / 95 = 2.63mph per base speed



    40,075 (Distance around the world) / 16 hours = 1556.25mph.
    / 80 = 19.45mph per base speed



    Our first calculation would give Speed Deoxys (2.63 * 180) = 473.4mph, while our second would give them (19.45 * 180) 3501mph. That would cover the distance of New York to LA in one hour.



    In Lore



    The Pokemon lore is inconsistent, contradictory, and quite useless, but I shall append some answer to this.




    • Genesect using Extreme-Speed - Quite fast - but no numbers

    • Latios - "Faster than a jet" ((1,555 mph, 2,503 km/h))

    • Pidgeot - Mach 2 speed 2,447 km/h


    • Golduck - Explicitly stated to be the fastest swimmer

    • Ninjask - Moves so fast they are almost Invisible.

      Using information from here, they must move at around 20,000km/h minimum, and from a distance of 10 miles (which is the distance to view the object for it to seem invisible). This is almost impossible from a close distance (If it abides by normal laws of physics, it'd be almost impossible to move so fast as to be almost invisible at a close distance. But if the Dex is to be believed, this is without a doubt the fastest pokemon.)






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      The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

      – Philipp
      Sep 1 '16 at 7:59






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      @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:42






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      @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:57






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      Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 1 '16 at 13:42






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      Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

      – Alex Meiburg
      Sep 1 '16 at 17:15


















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    There's only one consistent way to judge this, thanks to how infrequent good Pokedex data is.



    In-game Stats



    Arcanine has a base speed stat of 95 (Gen 6). Dragonite has a base speed stat of 80. And travels around the world in 16 hours. Compared to most Pokemon, this is rather slow. Using this method, we can see that the fastest pokemon stat-wise are:




    1. Deoxys (Speed) - 180

    2. Ninjask - 160

    3. Mega Alakazam - 150

    4. Mega Aerodactyl - 150

    5. Deoxys (Normal) - 150


    So it seems Deoxys (Speed) is much faster than Arcanine. Considering most pokemon do not have detailed notes on their speed, and poke-lore is ridiculously inconsistent it seems going off in-game stats is the best way to go.



    We could use the speed values to make an estimte of their actual speeds though, using the data provided about Arcanine and Dragoite



    250 / 95 = 2.63mph per base speed



    40,075 (Distance around the world) / 16 hours = 1556.25mph.
    / 80 = 19.45mph per base speed



    Our first calculation would give Speed Deoxys (2.63 * 180) = 473.4mph, while our second would give them (19.45 * 180) 3501mph. That would cover the distance of New York to LA in one hour.



    In Lore



    The Pokemon lore is inconsistent, contradictory, and quite useless, but I shall append some answer to this.




    • Genesect using Extreme-Speed - Quite fast - but no numbers

    • Latios - "Faster than a jet" ((1,555 mph, 2,503 km/h))

    • Pidgeot - Mach 2 speed 2,447 km/h


    • Golduck - Explicitly stated to be the fastest swimmer

    • Ninjask - Moves so fast they are almost Invisible.

      Using information from here, they must move at around 20,000km/h minimum, and from a distance of 10 miles (which is the distance to view the object for it to seem invisible). This is almost impossible from a close distance (If it abides by normal laws of physics, it'd be almost impossible to move so fast as to be almost invisible at a close distance. But if the Dex is to be believed, this is without a doubt the fastest pokemon.)






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      The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

      – Philipp
      Sep 1 '16 at 7:59






    • 1





      @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:42






    • 2





      @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:57






    • 2





      Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 1 '16 at 13:42






    • 1





      Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

      – Alex Meiburg
      Sep 1 '16 at 17:15
















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    There's only one consistent way to judge this, thanks to how infrequent good Pokedex data is.



    In-game Stats



    Arcanine has a base speed stat of 95 (Gen 6). Dragonite has a base speed stat of 80. And travels around the world in 16 hours. Compared to most Pokemon, this is rather slow. Using this method, we can see that the fastest pokemon stat-wise are:




    1. Deoxys (Speed) - 180

    2. Ninjask - 160

    3. Mega Alakazam - 150

    4. Mega Aerodactyl - 150

    5. Deoxys (Normal) - 150


    So it seems Deoxys (Speed) is much faster than Arcanine. Considering most pokemon do not have detailed notes on their speed, and poke-lore is ridiculously inconsistent it seems going off in-game stats is the best way to go.



    We could use the speed values to make an estimte of their actual speeds though, using the data provided about Arcanine and Dragoite



    250 / 95 = 2.63mph per base speed



    40,075 (Distance around the world) / 16 hours = 1556.25mph.
    / 80 = 19.45mph per base speed



    Our first calculation would give Speed Deoxys (2.63 * 180) = 473.4mph, while our second would give them (19.45 * 180) 3501mph. That would cover the distance of New York to LA in one hour.



    In Lore



    The Pokemon lore is inconsistent, contradictory, and quite useless, but I shall append some answer to this.




    • Genesect using Extreme-Speed - Quite fast - but no numbers

    • Latios - "Faster than a jet" ((1,555 mph, 2,503 km/h))

    • Pidgeot - Mach 2 speed 2,447 km/h


    • Golduck - Explicitly stated to be the fastest swimmer

    • Ninjask - Moves so fast they are almost Invisible.

      Using information from here, they must move at around 20,000km/h minimum, and from a distance of 10 miles (which is the distance to view the object for it to seem invisible). This is almost impossible from a close distance (If it abides by normal laws of physics, it'd be almost impossible to move so fast as to be almost invisible at a close distance. But if the Dex is to be believed, this is without a doubt the fastest pokemon.)






    share|improve this answer















    There's only one consistent way to judge this, thanks to how infrequent good Pokedex data is.



    In-game Stats



    Arcanine has a base speed stat of 95 (Gen 6). Dragonite has a base speed stat of 80. And travels around the world in 16 hours. Compared to most Pokemon, this is rather slow. Using this method, we can see that the fastest pokemon stat-wise are:




    1. Deoxys (Speed) - 180

    2. Ninjask - 160

    3. Mega Alakazam - 150

    4. Mega Aerodactyl - 150

    5. Deoxys (Normal) - 150


    So it seems Deoxys (Speed) is much faster than Arcanine. Considering most pokemon do not have detailed notes on their speed, and poke-lore is ridiculously inconsistent it seems going off in-game stats is the best way to go.



    We could use the speed values to make an estimte of their actual speeds though, using the data provided about Arcanine and Dragoite



    250 / 95 = 2.63mph per base speed



    40,075 (Distance around the world) / 16 hours = 1556.25mph.
    / 80 = 19.45mph per base speed



    Our first calculation would give Speed Deoxys (2.63 * 180) = 473.4mph, while our second would give them (19.45 * 180) 3501mph. That would cover the distance of New York to LA in one hour.



    In Lore



    The Pokemon lore is inconsistent, contradictory, and quite useless, but I shall append some answer to this.




    • Genesect using Extreme-Speed - Quite fast - but no numbers

    • Latios - "Faster than a jet" ((1,555 mph, 2,503 km/h))

    • Pidgeot - Mach 2 speed 2,447 km/h


    • Golduck - Explicitly stated to be the fastest swimmer

    • Ninjask - Moves so fast they are almost Invisible.

      Using information from here, they must move at around 20,000km/h minimum, and from a distance of 10 miles (which is the distance to view the object for it to seem invisible). This is almost impossible from a close distance (If it abides by normal laws of physics, it'd be almost impossible to move so fast as to be almost invisible at a close distance. But if the Dex is to be believed, this is without a doubt the fastest pokemon.)







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      The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

      – Philipp
      Sep 1 '16 at 7:59






    • 1





      @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:42






    • 2





      @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:57






    • 2





      Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 1 '16 at 13:42






    • 1





      Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

      – Alex Meiburg
      Sep 1 '16 at 17:15
















    • 6





      The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

      – Philipp
      Sep 1 '16 at 7:59






    • 1





      @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:42






    • 2





      @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

      – Samthere
      Sep 1 '16 at 9:57






    • 2





      Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 1 '16 at 13:42






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      Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

      – Alex Meiburg
      Sep 1 '16 at 17:15










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    The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

    – Philipp
    Sep 1 '16 at 7:59





    The ingame speed stat rather represents agility than travel speed. Also, the question explicitly asked for lore information, not an answer based on game data.

    – Philipp
    Sep 1 '16 at 7:59




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    @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

    – Samthere
    Sep 1 '16 at 9:42





    @arda There's plenty of in-game lore, which could be used in an answer here. There are numerous Pokédex entries for most Pokémon, and tons of other information that can be found in the game from characters and libraries.

    – Samthere
    Sep 1 '16 at 9:42




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    @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

    – Samthere
    Sep 1 '16 at 9:57





    @BritishFerret I don't disagree with your approach, but when the question is specifically about the in-game lore then the stats aren't the deciding factor. It may be a bad question, or take an unreasonable amount of effort to answer, but that doesn't make a stat-reliant answer correct in this particular context.

    – Samthere
    Sep 1 '16 at 9:57




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    Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 1 '16 at 13:42





    Ninjask's feat is actually commonplace in the Pokémon universe. Quick Attack's description reads "The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible". Quick Attack users include Trapinch, which has a Base Speed of 10. Pokémon lore is nonsense.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 1 '16 at 13:42




    1




    1





    Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

    – Alex Meiburg
    Sep 1 '16 at 17:15







    Thanks! I realize there are many inconsistencies in the Pokédex, but this is exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Figures I found online say things become invisible (due to being too small) at ratios like 1m/5km, or 0.3m/1km. Given Ninjask's height of 0.8m, I would not expect one to be visible at more than 4km, which reduces the speed proportionally (still ridiculous, though)! I'd also like to point out that in the same post they discuss how the appropriate speed at close range (although you have to add angular width to fovea) and quick attack could potentially have reasonable numbers.

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    According to Gary in the original TV series it would be Diglett.





    "Diglett can pull their heads into the ground at the speed of light!"





    Pretty sure that will top any other stat!!



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    • Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

      – Vemonus
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:27











    • @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

      – c.pullen
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:29











    • I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 2 '16 at 17:17











    • @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

      – c.pullen
      Sep 5 '16 at 7:24











    • @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 5 '16 at 10:52
















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    According to Gary in the original TV series it would be Diglett.





    "Diglett can pull their heads into the ground at the speed of light!"





    Pretty sure that will top any other stat!!



    Source






    share|improve this answer


























    • Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

      – Vemonus
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:27











    • @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

      – c.pullen
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:29











    • I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 2 '16 at 17:17











    • @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

      – c.pullen
      Sep 5 '16 at 7:24











    • @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 5 '16 at 10:52














    1












    1








    1







    According to Gary in the original TV series it would be Diglett.





    "Diglett can pull their heads into the ground at the speed of light!"





    Pretty sure that will top any other stat!!



    Source






    share|improve this answer















    According to Gary in the original TV series it would be Diglett.





    "Diglett can pull their heads into the ground at the speed of light!"





    Pretty sure that will top any other stat!!



    Source







    share|improve this answer














    share|improve this answer



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    • Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

      – Vemonus
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:27











    • @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

      – c.pullen
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:29











    • I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 2 '16 at 17:17











    • @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

      – c.pullen
      Sep 5 '16 at 7:24











    • @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 5 '16 at 10:52



















    • Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

      – Vemonus
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:27











    • @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

      – c.pullen
      Sep 2 '16 at 14:29











    • I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 2 '16 at 17:17











    • @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

      – c.pullen
      Sep 5 '16 at 7:24











    • @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 5 '16 at 10:52

















    Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

    – Vemonus
    Sep 2 '16 at 14:27





    Can you provide a source for this quote? I tried to find one but could not. I assume it's from EP031?

    – Vemonus
    Sep 2 '16 at 14:27













    @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

    – c.pullen
    Sep 2 '16 at 14:29





    @Vemonus, aileran.tumblr.com/post/19227024915/…

    – c.pullen
    Sep 2 '16 at 14:29













    I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 2 '16 at 17:17





    I don't know how trustworthy of a source Gary Oak can be. Not to mention it's the anime.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 2 '16 at 17:17













    @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

    – c.pullen
    Sep 5 '16 at 7:24





    @DanmakuGrazer, the question only asked for the fastest pokemon according to lore.. If Gary Oak heard it from someone who heard it from someone then it becomes lore

    – c.pullen
    Sep 5 '16 at 7:24













    @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 5 '16 at 10:52





    @c.pullen You've got a nice big "if" there, and anime lore is not game lore.

    – Wrigglenite
    Sep 5 '16 at 10:52











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    The question is unanswerable.



    Pokémon lore, especially move and Pokédex description, has always been very exaggerated since it's supposed to appeal to children. There has never been any proof that the grandest claims found in the Pokédex are true. For example:




    Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit.




    You'd burst into flames if you so much as looked at one.




    Alakazam's brain continually grows, infinitely multiplying brain cells.




    Alakazam's head has yet to explode.




    [Machamp's] four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds.




    125 punches per arm per second.




    Manectric is constantly discharging electricity from its mane. The sparks sometimes ignite forest fires. When it enters a battle, this Pokémon creates thunderclouds.




    Manectric does not, in fact, create thunderclouds or discharge constantly.




    [Cubone] always wears the skull of its dead mother, so no one has any idea what its hidden face looks like.




    I've bred Cubone before, and my Marowak still has a skull, and is definitely alive.




    When [Victini] shares the infinite energy it creates, that being's entire body will be overflowing with power.




    We've got a being that can produce infinite energy. Not a huge amount, not enough to obliterate the universe, it's literally infinite. I don't need to tell you how ridiculous that is. If any Pokémon is the fastest, it's Victini.



    And finally, Quick Attack's description:




    The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible.




    I guess anything that learns Quick Attack is the fastest Pokémon in existence, if you want to trust the lore, but I prefer this move.






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    The question is unanswerable.



    Pokémon lore, especially move and Pokédex description, has always been very exaggerated since it's supposed to appeal to children. There has never been any proof that the grandest claims found in the Pokédex are true. For example:




    Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit.




    You'd burst into flames if you so much as looked at one.




    Alakazam's brain continually grows, infinitely multiplying brain cells.




    Alakazam's head has yet to explode.




    [Machamp's] four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds.




    125 punches per arm per second.




    Manectric is constantly discharging electricity from its mane. The sparks sometimes ignite forest fires. When it enters a battle, this Pokémon creates thunderclouds.




    Manectric does not, in fact, create thunderclouds or discharge constantly.




    [Cubone] always wears the skull of its dead mother, so no one has any idea what its hidden face looks like.




    I've bred Cubone before, and my Marowak still has a skull, and is definitely alive.




    When [Victini] shares the infinite energy it creates, that being's entire body will be overflowing with power.




    We've got a being that can produce infinite energy. Not a huge amount, not enough to obliterate the universe, it's literally infinite. I don't need to tell you how ridiculous that is. If any Pokémon is the fastest, it's Victini.



    And finally, Quick Attack's description:




    The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible.




    I guess anything that learns Quick Attack is the fastest Pokémon in existence, if you want to trust the lore, but I prefer this move.






    share|improve this answer


























    • I'd love to improve my answer if the downvoter could provide a comment.

      – Wrigglenite
      Sep 1 '16 at 16:19














    1












    1








    1







    The question is unanswerable.



    Pokémon lore, especially move and Pokédex description, has always been very exaggerated since it's supposed to appeal to children. There has never been any proof that the grandest claims found in the Pokédex are true. For example:




    Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit.




    You'd burst into flames if you so much as looked at one.




    Alakazam's brain continually grows, infinitely multiplying brain cells.




    Alakazam's head has yet to explode.




    [Machamp's] four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds.




    125 punches per arm per second.




    Manectric is constantly discharging electricity from its mane. The sparks sometimes ignite forest fires. When it enters a battle, this Pokémon creates thunderclouds.




    Manectric does not, in fact, create thunderclouds or discharge constantly.




    [Cubone] always wears the skull of its dead mother, so no one has any idea what its hidden face looks like.




    I've bred Cubone before, and my Marowak still has a skull, and is definitely alive.




    When [Victini] shares the infinite energy it creates, that being's entire body will be overflowing with power.




    We've got a being that can produce infinite energy. Not a huge amount, not enough to obliterate the universe, it's literally infinite. I don't need to tell you how ridiculous that is. If any Pokémon is the fastest, it's Victini.



    And finally, Quick Attack's description:




    The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible.




    I guess anything that learns Quick Attack is the fastest Pokémon in existence, if you want to trust the lore, but I prefer this move.






    share|improve this answer















    The question is unanswerable.



    Pokémon lore, especially move and Pokédex description, has always been very exaggerated since it's supposed to appeal to children. There has never been any proof that the grandest claims found in the Pokédex are true. For example:




    Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit.




    You'd burst into flames if you so much as looked at one.




    Alakazam's brain continually grows, infinitely multiplying brain cells.




    Alakazam's head has yet to explode.




    [Machamp's] four ruggedly developed arms can launch a flurry of 1,000 punches in just two seconds.




    125 punches per arm per second.




    Manectric is constantly discharging electricity from its mane. The sparks sometimes ignite forest fires. When it enters a battle, this Pokémon creates thunderclouds.




    Manectric does not, in fact, create thunderclouds or discharge constantly.




    [Cubone] always wears the skull of its dead mother, so no one has any idea what its hidden face looks like.




    I've bred Cubone before, and my Marowak still has a skull, and is definitely alive.




    When [Victini] shares the infinite energy it creates, that being's entire body will be overflowing with power.




    We've got a being that can produce infinite energy. Not a huge amount, not enough to obliterate the universe, it's literally infinite. I don't need to tell you how ridiculous that is. If any Pokémon is the fastest, it's Victini.



    And finally, Quick Attack's description:




    The user lunges at the target at a speed that makes it almost invisible.




    I guess anything that learns Quick Attack is the fastest Pokémon in existence, if you want to trust the lore, but I prefer this move.







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    I'd love to improve my answer if the downvoter could provide a comment.

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    Garchomp is said to fly as fast as a fighter jet and an average fighter jest can go 4000 km/h while Dragonite can only go 2505 km/h. Zeraora can go as fast as lightning but a lightning bolt's speed is less than 2000 km/h.





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